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Re: Shadow Warriors
First off I'll let you know that I like this type of story. You did a good job with it and I thought that the dialogue was done well. It seemed to flow along at a decent speed and kept my interest which was a good thing. By the end of the story I was looking forward to the next installment.
There are a few things I'll point out to you. First off you seem to have a habit of hitting the "T" key instead of the "R" key. Thats not really a major problem, but you might take a little extra time to read over your work and fix them before you post it. Quote:
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achieved I believe that just about all of these are typos and not real grammar mistakes. Like I said before, they can be taken care of by a thourough read through before posting. It'll make the editors job a little easier also. Overall a good job. let's see the next one.! |
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Thank you for the read and the feedback.
^//////^ i have a bad habit of hitting the wrong keys or hitting them out of order... I will be extra careful to read over better when I submit. Thanks for everything!
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Thing is, I fixed all that, and a few other things, when I edited this piece with MS Word. It seems I pasted the unedited version back in by mistake. Please accept my apologies for this error.
I, to, enjoyed the quick pace and style of this story. I must admit though, being 300 years old and all, I never got into manga style stories. Nevertheless, I did like the characters; they stood out in relief and, as I had mentioned to you, seemed fully formed, as if you were quite familiar with them. They feel as if they have a shared history, giving me the impression that I had stepped into an episode of an ongoing storyline. You obviously spent some time fleshing them out and it shows. I found myself anticipating the beginning of an adventure and looking forward to the next installment.
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Its ok- I should appologize to you for not being more careful with the typos before i sent it in.
I am glad you appreciate the "history" of the characters and I do spend quite a bit of time developing their character and personalities and I do have a brief bio and history set up for each one of them that serves as the framework for how they interact with each other. My characters for me are alive in some way- they are not just characters that i slap a name on and write a story about- its as if they are actual people who think feel behave fear dout and dream the same as we do. For this chapter alone there is probably almost 5 days worth of research in for everything
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Re: Shadow Warriors
I like ninjas.... strike that love 'em, so I'm already wanting this story to be great before I start to read. It's pretty good. The thing I think it's lacking is character, and not actual people-characters. I mean in the delivery and style it lacks character.
I feel like I'm reading the overview of a scene, not the meat and potatoes of it. I hope you don't take this in a bad way. I'm not being mean and critical, I'm saying it because I want to know what these characters are thinking and feeling. I want to be able to relate too them so bad, but I'm having trouble right now. Quote:
First of all I would suggest two paragraphs because this is a big one. Nothing technically wrong with that, but as a writer we have to adhere to our readers...readers don't like big paragraphs. Don't get me wrong, some really don't mind, but we have to write for the masses. Most books are sold with small pages or big font, because it makes it easier for the reader to get through a page, and that they enjoy, which encourages them to keep reading. Its psychological, but it works. Secondly streamline your descriptions and always be on the look-out for how you can make each one better, sometimes more is less. (sometimes not, you have to make the decision) Deep in the lush forests of Japan, in a small clearing littered with shelters made from stick and stone, stands a young man. Thick black hair stands short and wild on his head with a cool mountain breeze rustling through it. Dark eyes pierce the air like a winter's wind, but on his face was a warming smile. A dark blue shinobifuku hangs on (clings to) his lithe body. His name is Kato Shoshunji having just turned 27, he life has been one of training. It has produced an inspiring skill with a sword, but the sword isn't the only thing Kato isknown for. Binding techniques have earned Kato the nickname 'Snare.'" ..... or whatever, you get the idea. The red part, needs a little more explanation. Why also Tani? Does Tani not like most people, if so why? If you just want to establish that Kato is well liked, it will help the flow of the story if you take out the last sentence and show he is liked within the context of the story with people constantly talking or saying hi to him. Quote:
First off, when you write it in your head or at least see it in your head, make sure we are getting enough details so we can it play out like you see it. When you see a pause in the conversation work it into your dialog. Like the first paragraph maybe something more along these lines: "Yes, and did that anger come from thinking he was wrong or realizing he was half correct?" Kakei dark sagacious eyes find Kato's, who's can't hold the gaze long before finding his feet. "What do the prophets tell us Tani?" Tani looks up knowing what's to come. "‘Provocation can only be achieved when you allow yourself to be provoked.’" Tani says finishing with Kakei. "Yes, my young warrior. We both know it isn't a matter of knowledge, but of mind and will to exercise and master it. "I admit, it isn't easy. Mastering our emotions is like taming a wild beast. They love to rage out of control," he looks out over the landscape, "but if left alone they will conquer you my son." Tani looks up in surprise. "They will conquer anyone." Kakei watches two birds build a nest for the spring. "Without emotion there would be no compassion and friendship, but...without control of emotion, there is hatred and animosity." Kakei faces contorts into a frown before turning to place a hand on Tani's shoulder. "Don't let that become of you; for I see great potential in you my son. It would be a shame for you to travel the path many have before you of strength without control. That path slowly makes them no more than a wild animal, a slave to their emotions and instincts, and then, eventually, it leads to their undoing." Tani fiddles with his sandal as he takes in his sensei's words. "With the disagreement between you and Kato, no matter who might have taken the first step towards the fight, it took both of you moving to that end, in order to achieve it." Adding description, pauses, facial expressions and even emotions the characters are feeling will add tons of depth. It will really help draw the reader in. This is a good story. I like the theme and the direction. The characters are human, and can be easy to relate to with a little tweaking. Keep up the good work, and I'll be waiting for the next installment.
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I apprecite your feedback and agree with you on some parts. I left out some details on purpos ebecasue in the past i have been told that i am TOO descriptive- and i know how hard it can be to read things where it takes 3 pages to set up a 3 min scene LOL i guess I just need a better ballance. Thanks for the tips and feedback! I will see if i can do better in chapter 2
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Well, I can't offer much more than has already been said. I just wanted to offer my support. This is a very good beginning.
At this point, Kakei seems a bit like cardboard to me. He says all the things I would expect a wise sensei to say. And that's the problem. He doesn't have anything distinct about him. He's too generic. A missing pinkie finger or a strange tattoo on the left hand would make him more interesting. Even better are behavioral quirks like a certain way of walking or a very specific expression (crooked smiled?) used over and over again. Those sorts of things really round out characters and make them memorable. Looking forward to hearing about the further adventures of the shadow warriors. Cheers! ea_blue
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May I ask: Are you in the Booj? Maybe Aikido? (Most likely Booj, Aiki doesn't do Jumanji) Or (now answer honestly) did you get this from a book? Maybe a manga? I'm just curious. (I do Judo <-- Check out the Martial Arts thread I made) As a standalone this is a good story. Good moral, conflict and everyone loves ninjers. If you made this into a longer story tho' I'd leave the conflict unresolved because it makes things a little unbelievable if placed into a long-term setting. "Pow!" "Don't hit him" "Sorry" "It's otay, I lub you" "lub you too" is very good format for a stand alone but not the greatest if you have more to say (conflict is more fun). Aside from the historical notes (Which aren't really anything, since it's a story and fuck history) the only problem is all the characters seemed pretty... bland. You have the cocky bastard, the up-tight prick and the sage Asian dude, even their descriptions seem to be pretty boring and un-imaginative. Flesh them out, devote a little more space to describing who they are or what they look like, I'd get more involved with the characters if they didn't feel like various characters from Power Rangers (Zordon IS the man tho') Either way, it wasn't a bad story at all. Keep it up. (Oh, and for the "fudo-ken" all I could think about was HADO-KEN! from Ryu in Street Fighter) |
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Re: Shadow Warriors
Well I'll just begin by saying nice to meet you, my name is Masa, Storiesmania's resident Half-Japanese boy. Because of my... cultural backgrounds I enjoyed your story into a particular depth that those without our knowledge would have a bit more trouble with.
Your story flowed well, and it was very easy to read as you and I write in similar styles. I also wish to comment on your romaji, as it is actually very good! You should know that if I can read and translate a bit, then you did very well! Your characters are believable (as far as fictional ninjas go) and I can see your fanfiction roots (I was at one point a fanfic writer as well). This comment is a good deal late, but I hope it is taken despite my most maniacal tardiness. All in all, goo' job!
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Re: Shadow Warriors
Watch your tenses, you switch between present and past a couple times. Be sure to check your spelling because you also use some unnecesary words in your sentences. Some of which Mike found a while ago and still haven't been changed. If you've been busy lately thats understandable just make sure to write a note in the Synopsis for any future readers to ignore them because they do get annoying.
Overall, the story could be better if you fixed the spelling and watched out for the word tenses. I had a problem with them fo a while but my writing is getting better now that they aren't a factor. |
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First off, I think you should re-read this once just to correct all the typos. "pf" instead of "of", and "in" instead of "on" in a couple of areas. Just reading through this, you ought to be able to spot a few more unintended spelling errors. Quote:
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. Now coming to the story itself...I liked it. I've not been much of a fan of Japanese RPG-styled anime, sometimes because the names confuse me, and other times because it's just too complex to follow. However, seeing as how this was just |