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Re: Voices of Demons, Voices of Angels
Man I thought this was great. I normally get sick of the whole demon thing in stories, seems a little overplayed, but what isn't nowadays? But I enjoyed this. I appreciated your style of writing, simple sentences yet they form the parts of a wonderfully crafted story. I couldn't help but feel for both these characters, on different levels. That is effective writing.
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I could see this being developed into a much bigger story. WIth the developments and evolution that can occur through a larger story I actually this this would be an amazing read. Things such as this: Quote:
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excellent piece jt. brill plot n flow. u tell it well
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Awesome. I love a story about demons and angels and the like. Of course, just looking at my writings might reflect that! Very nice, good thing you gave me the link and I was so curious no?
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Okay, I'm gonna do the comment thing where I type stuff as I read, and then give my final opinion at the end. Lets begin, shall we?
Different title, don't know how I stand on it yet, kinda like it, we'll see how it reflects your story. But so far so good. What's a demon doing holding a woman captive in a cathedral. Usually people in cathedrals hold Demons captive, not the other way around! Choking disgust welled up from her bowels and she heaved. <--- Nice...and eew okay, this is kinda kinky In the cathedral, a full moon had shown through tall windows, casting a ghostly light. <--- we already know that they're in a cathedral. You're uselessly repeating yourself, just say "A full moon shown through the tall, discolored windows, casting a ghostly light upon the row of benches" or something. I was trying to think of another word for those benches, but nothing came to mind. Pianos are always cool in a horror story, real creepy. Ooo, this is really good so far. Rebellion? interesting. And as for the torments of hell, I like the angle your providing with that. It's cool, for more on people recouping from spending an eternity in hell, check out season 3 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. But you probably wont so yeah, just, kinda reminded me of somethign that happens in that season. I'm starting to understand why he's in a cathedral. This is a really awesome story. What motive, man this is so good!!! And it's done. So, she plays for a while, sings, gets tired, stops, and then god pulls out a whip, whips her and forces her to keep playing? That'd be cool. But in all seriousness, that was amazing...if only it was longer. Your story grabbed hold of me, but I definately think the ending should have been longer, like the part where the demon saves her. I think you should have shown his redmption. See, he imprisoned her, and was mean to her, and tortured her, but her music changed him, and I think when the time came that he was forced to make the choice of doing the right thing, or falling back into his own ways, well we should have seen more of that. He should have escaped with her, and apologized not only for what he'd done, but also for getting her involved in this nightmare. The Satan would hunt them down, and the demon would choose to fight him and die, in the hopes that he'd give her time to escape. He doesn't but the act of doing so gets him into heaven, and she of course gets to heaven cause she can play the piano, and they need a new Piano girl.
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Thanks a lot Wingcommander. Those are some great ideas. I was so inspired by your post that I moved my story from "Completed Works" to "Works in Progress" on my hard drive and started expanding on the final showdown scene. We may get this up to 2000 words yet...
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I look forward to your Extended cut :p
Just make sure it's digitally remastered, and Greedo shoots first.
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The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance Last edited by WingcommanderIV; 04-05-2007 at 01:19 PM. |
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This has got to one of the best stories I've ever read - just beautiful. A rebel demon was a magnificent idea. Also, the music and the demon's obsesssion were a nice bit of work. Your writing was almost perfect and the forms in the text kept me enthralled.
The story was very touching also, a thing that is not found around the internet so easily. Respect for that. The ending and the way the story carried the element of music all the way to the ending was also good. |
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Hmm, I was a bit nervous to read this because people useually get it all wrong when they try to write about angels and demons. Though my Bible lets me know that some of these things contradict it, I know that this is just fiction and is not trying to insult my religion in any way. I respect that.
This is an excellent story! It was filled with wonderful description, a captivating storyline (for it being as short as it was) and overall, entertaining until the end. Thank you for this excellent read, and keep this good work flowing!
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Thanks for the kind words guys Merry and Eternal.
Eternal, your comment got me thinking about how this story began percolating in my head. As a child, I once asked my mom if sin would disappear if Satan asked God for forgiveness. She told me that Satan and his angels could be forgiven but would never ask. In some ways, this story is an attempt to rebel against that idea. So in a way, I am attempting to buck conventional, traditional christian belief with this story. However, I'm still glad you were able to appreciate it for what it was.
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This peice is spectacular. I felt that the cathedral and Emily's song played out in my head. it was like watching a movie from inside the story. its amazing just how beautiful pain can seem with this story.
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As I Read:
I find the sudden breaks crack up the continuity. It's hard to maintain a flow in a story if it keeps on getting broken. The beginning seemed as if not to fit with the rest of the piece. "You force me to punish you." A whip then whispered through the air and as the lashes began she felt relief. For the touch of the whip was preferable to the touch of its hand. Still she tensed, each stroke stinging more than the last." The tone is one of a sadistic demon at the beginning but a pained one later on, however this character is not being developed because nothing changed him. Is he sadistic or pained? Also you make many psuedo religous references which were confusing and out of place. Always know your audience. Is your audience those that know alot about JudeoChristian mythology or not? If you didnt mention it so much it would have been better. Or explained things like The Fall or Rebellion. As I read I expected you to go into later talk about his experiences through those matters, but you did not. It felt like a tree with its branches cut off. You have these stubs that lead to nowhere. Analysis: Characters: Two characters here worth talking about Barbas and Emily. Barbas. A demonic sometimes sadistic sometimes pained. He is the character who has the most contradictions but yet the best. He says he's sorry that he has to punish her at the beginning for trying an escape but yet touches her something he must know pains her. If he was truley sorry he wouldnt do anything extra. And if he wasnt truley sorry he wouldnt fell bad about being selfish which he mentions he is later on. Also I don't understand why he is keeping her prisioner. He has no romantic attraction to her as so far as I can tell. All I can get from is it is he wants to listen to music, and she wants to play it. I think I need to see some more conflict between the two. A deeper reason for her imprisonment. Emily. We really know nothing about her. She could be a child molesting fetus eating serial killer. We only see her pained by Barbas which makes her completly undeveloped an not worthwhile. It just seems like you need to add more to her. Make her whole, let her experiance more than fear and such. However Emily does change which is refreshing for this site. she comes to terms with with Barbas which is good. The reason she does isn't. From what I can tell she dosent like Barbas because she is a prisoner. That is your conflict. There are only way for this conflict to be resolved, she is no longer his prisoner. However, this can be acheived two seperate ways she is free, or she dosen't mind being a prisoner, hence not being one anymore. This conflict is resolved when she see's Barbas stuggle: "Emily could barely hear Barbas' response as her ears rang, "I cannot go back and do your evil work. Every cell, every nerve, all that is me rebels against it." She felt a moment of sympathy for him, but even more awe at one who would defy so ferocious a beast. And then it turned its eyes on her." She sees hes not evil. Thats jimdandy but that has nothing to do with her being imprisoned because the asshole wants to hear music. The conflict isn't resolved until they both die. Plot: The best way to say it is, the plot had alot of problems. The above of course but more. "he had fled his work in the underworld, Barbas never left the cathedral. He was terrified of recapture" First of all why did he flee his work in the underworld, it would have been nice if that was explained. Also later on... " "This is she who bewitches your mind?" " What did she have to do with it? So he loved her music that dosent make someone one good. Hitler loved to dance but that didn't prevent the Holocaust. Also it couldn't have been her it contradicts the fact he left the underworld earlier for another reason. "Never before has a demon from the rebellion been reclaimed and all of heaven rejoices." He was also reclaimed far before she came around. It was his own will that led him to flee from hell, she had nothing to do with it. All she did if anything was get the poor guy killed, which as a demon I don't see it as possible. Imagery: Average but thats ok. Unless that is a focal point while writting it this depth of imagery is ok. Final Thoughts: I dont know what the big thing about this story is, frankly I didn't like it. The pound signs were in some cases unnecessary took me out of the story. Everytime you do that you remind the reader this isn't happening. Then you have to work in the next segment to draw them back in to your world. Its possible but difficult. Try not to do it, and when you do remember everytime you have do it all again from scratch, that is get the reader involved again. Also look for plot holes. There will always be a prick like me who is just waiting for you to mess up, dont give us the satisfaction. My advice to alot of the writers on this site would be to consider what makes people feel the way they do and work that into your stories. My biggest problem that collapsed the entire thing for me was their crappy no base sometimes noexistant ephinanies. Have you ever been transformed from evil to good by music, I grant music might have changed your mood but not who you are. And if it has that really means nothing because Barbas never really changed!
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Re: Voices of Demons, Voices of Angels
its good keep on writin stories
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I don't really want to read what others have commented..... As I'm scared that what I want to say has already been said by others.
I loved the plot. Brilliant stuff, seriously. The flow, I don't want to lie, at the beginning it couldn't used some work but it picked up very nicely later. Description, there seemed to be a lack of, but this is one of those stories that don't really need description. I say, good job. You deserve a fair amount of recognition for this. |
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Wow strange, your reviews are awesome and humbling. Thanks for all the feedback. Its very helpful.
Darkstar, I appreciate your kind words as well.
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I was very disappointed for the following reasons; the first, what more did this demon look like. Second, what did this "Emily," woman look like? Why did the villagers not just destroy the cathedral before? What did the other demons look like? And why was there no greater detail about their struggle, even if they did die? God just forgave that easily?
"A whip then whispered through the air and as the lashes began, she felt relief." "Using the arm of a pew, she dragged herself to her feet, her hope for freedom draining with the rivulets of blood dripping from her back." "They smiled, sighed, and swayed to the music." "Always, the music relaxed the demon's troubled mind." "Therefore, he took to flight in the late hours on moonless nights when his silhouette would not stand out against the black sky." "It was not the this influx of demons that paralyzed her with fear." "Once again, he took her in his arms and tried to save her from the fire." |
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To be honest, this is not my favorite genre but the imagery is good so I thought I might make a few comments. Quote:
Maybe - Choking disgust welled up deep from within her bowels and vomit spewed across the stone floor. Quote:
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With relief, she heard the whisper of the whip and felt the lashes cut across her back. The touch of the whip was preferable to the touch of his hand. Still she tensed, as each stroke punished her more than the last. Quote:
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