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Re: Army of man
awesome story, with a freaking amazing moral comment
your style of writing is extremely provocative and really kept my attention and had very few quibbles wouldnt mind a bit more on the general global situation, however thats just a personal curiosity thing, and most likely reflects the mindset of the protagonist also, would be nice to know what an EM-2 is, but then again, i dont know all that much xP either way dude, this was an awesome piece, i loved it, and i want to see some more =^_^=
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Some of the parts in some bits of the story dont make sence and some of the spelling is incorrect.
but overall a AWSOME STORY. very describable. GREAT WORK. Dan
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Not sure what to say in terms of content, since the story is really good. I'll just comment on some grammatical/spelling errors.
First, in the very first paragraph, it's "Though" not "Thought." Second, make sure you write numbers out. "4" should be "four." Quote:
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I agree with the others: Tis a great millitary story.
My comments lie mainly in your choice and realisation of setting: Presumably this is set in some variation of the Cold War. In principal I was interested as to a little background or at least a date. You set your story in USSR, but I (being born there myself) felt that aspect a little weak. I'm curious whether others find it believable. Basically your choice of names and some other words was good, but over all it felt like the conversation and general style was inspired more by american army/movies than the soviet. Since it is set in an alternative history, I can't say whether the conditions you describe for soviet army are realistic for this fictional time. However I'm fairly certain that what you describe is much brighter and glorious than the Russian army is now (and probably what it was in the equivalent of your year). Basically your protagonist thinks and I'm not sure a character who thinks could/should survive there. Secondly you use some english jargon & swear words. This kind of feels out of place for me. Perhaps it would feel more natural if either replaced by pseudo-russian terms(Like swearing by animals or something), or just if you just introduced more references to Soviet Union things (like use words like "comrade", there was strong soviet youth movement called Pioneri etc). So these were my criticisms, but having noted them fairly early in the story, I kept on reading as if the story was set in American (or some other english speaking) army. In this context, the story really shines and I enjoyed it greatly. So why did you choose soviet context? |
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ehh, my granddad was part of the red army during WWII. I never really knew him, so all of my setting and knowledge (or lack there of) comes from secondary sources (usually written by americans or someone who's not from the USSR).
anyways, I picked russian characters for three reasons. First, to pay homage to my granddad. Two, the red army was seemly the only army i could think of that could make a 15 year old seem in place. Three, The soviets were a fierce and robust people, and in such a war as the one I "made", they would be the perfect combatant. it's like would be like a war sized stalingrad. btw, i am (and was when I wrote this) 15, so, i dunno, it seemed like a good story to tell
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Overall, there are a lot of great points within this story; however, I have to agree that it lacks a sense of realism overall.
Even in writing a short story for fun or tribute, it is good to do a bit more research on the things you'll be touching. The cold war Soviet military was a very rough and scary life. For the men at the bottom, it was filled with a lack of factual information, a lot of propoganda to inform them of their resolve, and only enough supplies to continue their extensive training sessions. For the officers, it was a fine line that had to be walked between doing the job of a military leader, kissing up to make sure they would make their next promotion, and pretending (in many cases) to support fully the ideals of communism. This has the potential of being really great! You need to remember that it's the details that will sell the reader. Alja123 made an excellent point; the names are plausible, but the way in which these characters are addressed is less than reasonable. The reader might be told that someone by the name of Sasha was a member of the unit, but they might also likely know that his name was really Aleksandr Ivanovich Vasiliev, and that Sasha was his nickname. In fact, he would probably be addressed as Comrade Vailiev by those who were being more formal with him, and Sasha by his closest friends. A great book that would help you develop a sense for details, and what it might have been like for your young character is Red Army. It is an easy read, and when you're done, you would be able to transform this piece into something phenominal. If you choose not to read it, at least consider the details that will make it real, and expand on the areas that affect the story so much (such as the battle in Germany, why they were being forced into service at a young age, etc.). Perhaps the Colonel would have crushed out his cigarette as the Major came into his office, amost marching to the front of the desk, and reporting to Comrade Popov with all the pomp of a propaganda officer. I could go on for awhile, but I don't have the time right now. If you are interested in working more with this short story, and want some one-on-one guidance, PM me. I'm on vacation right now, but I'll be in and out.
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well, i'm not going to lie, this stories old, and i don't really care about it as much anymore. It would probably help if I went back and edited it, but i'm not worries about it. I've written bigger and better things.
not to mention that some of it, such as swearing using english terms or improperly use of names, but keep in mind the target audience. i COULD use primarily russian terms, but that wouldn't reach the audience. For instance, if this story was set in, say, korea, i could use culturally sound terms like "go eat a potato," and some people would understand such a phrase and realize that it's derogatory. However, some people would be completely lost by such a phrase, and would have to have to find out what I meant. that would undoubtedly irritate some people, and they would be turned away from my story. So, instead of using language and customs only a few people would understand and appreciate, i used the language and customs that everyone would understand, even if it didn't technically fit with my setting and characters. Additionally, like almost every piece I do, I try to keep the story and meaning universal. while setting and characters are a major part of this story, I could have (and should have) kept the nationality of my characters anonymous. The fact that my characters are russian has little to no effect on how the plot drives itself forward. Anton could have been Anthony, Antonius, Antal, or any other name i wanted. Same with Kirill and Averiy and anyone else who had a name. Hell, i could have named my characters after the creations of doctor Suess, and it wouldn't have changed the story in any major was. Therefore, I find the use of names and titles pointless, and, as such, i don't worry about if I'm using them correctly. anyways, like I said, thanks for the offer, but i've moved on. This is an old story, and one that I'm not going to worry about
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Re: Army of man
Fair enough...
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I liked the story. The writing...well, you said it's an old story. I've seen you write better than this.
I liked the ending quite a bit. I think you should put a more clearly visibly demarcation between the scene involving the Major and the Colonel, and then again in the last few paragraphs. Like a ==================== or something. I generally use * * * when I want to change the setting.
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I'm going to agree with most of the people who posted here. This is really good, but you've done better. I love the feel you give to all of your stories. The war situations look very authentic with all those factual details and writing style. I'm not going to get into technicalities here (sorry, haven't got the time right now), but I suggest you go through this once again. There are a few types and couple of other mistakes. But like you said, you've moved on, so very well. Just want to tell you that I enjoyed this very much and will always be on the lookout for something new from you.
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You say your done with this story, but I don't think you really should be. A good story like this should never really be 'done', just go into another stage of creation. Some time in the future, even if it's years from now, go back and look over this and see what you can improve.
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My best criticizing statement on this might be something like: there's a lot of exposition but not a lot of action/dialogue. Of course "showing us" everything might take forever and you have a huge back story involved.
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Although it definitely is, this story seems to be as you said a moral styled story rather actual focus on action solely. The section with the major and colonel seems detached from the othr story with the main chracter. If you had made a small connection between the two earlier, such as the colonel orders the attack on Engand, that might work as a bridge.
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