[Maud]

There was a man named bush,
to decide what tie to wear was the extent of his mental push.
But one day he wanted some oil,
so whose land would he invade who had oil in their soil.
So he rallied the american voters
he promised he wasn't one of the biggest gloaters,
so the young men and boys went on their way,
They fought day after day.
"Well that's sad that I killed your sons and put them in their final beds"
sorry he never said.
He still will claim there were WMDs
Iraq and nukes went toghter like dogs and fleas
Well the economy's bad
and the gays are sad
and old people are mad.
Why oh why did we vote for him,
are minds must have been dim,
Well its to bad now,
the U.S. is getting ready to take its last bow,
a man of god was claimed
but now its Bush we blame.
No it should not be him,
it was not even the republican's brains that were dim,
it was those who were too busy to to decide,
yet you say he was bad and will not abide.
It was all your fault
It was wounds where you poured your salt.
So never complain or cry,
because now you know why.

[jjw1965]

Get ready for the Police State!

[Maud]

Well look at the good side if we have a police state we wouldnt have to pretend we have a democracy.

[colinbaker62]

Originally Posted by Maud'Dib

Well look at the good side if we have a police state we wouldnt have to pretend we have a democracy.

That's very true.. This was a good write with a sound message.. Bravo to that !

[Evrviglnt]

Clever poem, though as usual with musings from the left it is long on hyperbole and short on insight. I can remember when Clinton was in office, I didn't like him much but I never doubted that he was a good man. But today, Bush is Hitler and all soldiers are children.

Ah but for an intelligent debate on such a complex topic.........

[colinbaker62]

Originally Posted by Evrviglnt

Clever poem, though as usual with musings from the left it is long on hyperbole and short on insight. I can remember when Clinton was in office, I didn't like him much but I never doubted that he was a good man. But today, Bush is Hitler and all soldiers are children.

Ah but for an intelligent debate on such a complex topic.........

To be sure it is the right-wing media that is long on hyperbole, in fact so long they see fit to buy every printing establishment on earth in order to make such distorted hyperbole as protracted a phenomenon as is possible.

[loosygoosy007]

Thanks for that, Maud. I never wanted Bush in office, and I hated how he started the war with Iraq. My cousin's actually oversea right now, and it's all because of Bush starting the war.

As a poem, some of the lines were uneven, but the ideas were great.

[Iggster]

The biblical idea of a "burning bush" doesn't sound that outrageous now. When he steps down in 2008, the champagne is gonna fly all over the world. The good thing is after that secret service will be off his back and we could launch a pre-emptive strike against stupidity, with its central command in the terrorist bunkers of Crawford, Texas.

[Maud]

thanks for all your responses, its been a long time since I wrote a poem this one included maybe Ill take it up again.

[katofmystery]

I loved all the ideas you put into the poem because they are TRUE!!! A little fun fact, the
1st Admendment says we have right to free speak, but there is a law (or whatever) that says we can't say anything bad about the President??? It is our right as an American to have free speech.
I was totally surprised when he was re-elected, I didn't like Kerry or anything but anything is better than Bush!!! Even if a President runs off to Canada during a war... Clinton!!

[Lost Snail]

Liked the poem, would have been much easier to read with some punctuation though.
I agree with your point that blaming Bush is far from the way to solve things, and society needs to take a long look at itself in the mirror. As for champagne flying- it'll be short lived I fear, there seems to be an endless queue of game-showesque figure-heads for these crooked organisations known as political parties.

Evrviglnt, if it is an intelligent debate you long for, then please, feel free to post a thread in the appropriate section, and I'm sure collin and myself will be happy to oblige. As for Clinton, well, I always doubted he was a good man, though I did quite like him .
p.s. ignore the rating, I give it at least 50 on general principal, for meaning, and a further 25 at least for writing.

[Pule]

lol this reminds me. When I was in Berlin, we were trying to find our hotel and we asked this guy. He showed us where it was and asked where we were from. So we told him and he said "Yes, we like America. We like America, but we don't like Bush" lol all over the world... great Muad.

[moggzy]

Sorry, i'm sober now!!


Good work Maud.

[Vincentii]

How can a system that was developed in the 17th century after the English civil war still be a relevant way to govern the major states of the world!?

I agree with that train of thought. Democracy is too old, let us do away with it!
The same goes for Common Law and the Code Napoléon.
The theory of evolution dates back from the 18th century, out with it!

(p.s. I am being sarcastic)

As for the poem itself (a very, very late comment), frankly I do not like it. It is more of a diatribe than a poem. There is no rhythm and there are a few grammatical. In all it sounds like it was written in a sudden outburst of anger

[Maud]

I wrote it as my first poem on this site, not in anger just to write a poem. But no matter how bad the poem is it got you all talking and that is better then a perfect poem that makes people feel nothing, and mainly isnt fought over. But to all you people I just cant wrap my head around why you would say we shouldnt blame bush, so we should blame the person who is responsible, or atleast the embodiment of that person who is responsible? I just dont understand...

PS. I did kinda write this out of emotion but sadly not at Bush. My grandfather was talking about politics and how he disagreed but how he didnt vote. That is what makes me mad, in my opinion if you make the choice not to vote you make the choice to have your say in free speech. I know thats not nice but oh well. If you are to busy to vote then you are to busy to have a say about your goverment after the fact.

POE,
Muad'Dib

I haven't really paid attention to how the poem is written (i.e. rhythm, imagery yadda yadda) because I was too busy agreeing with every word you said in this fantastic little poem. you sum up the UKs thoughts anyway

you're right: not voting means you have no right to complain about your government, as you do nothing to change it in the first place. As soon as I was old enough I was ticking boxes at the polling station, in the [vein] hope that I could make a difference.

its late, bad day at work

[BookWhale***]

As my social studies teacher said, "if you don't vote, then you can't complain about the goverment."

What makes mad about Bush is that he is anti gay marriage and abortion.
I believe that deneying anyone the right to get married is wrong. Unless you are brother and sister, or 1st cousins.
I also believe, even though I probably could never go through with it, that abortion is a woman's choice, and right. If you can't give us the right to decide to keep it, then how can you trust us to raise a child?

[Evrviglnt]

Originally Posted by BookWhale***

As my social studies teacher said, "if you don't vote, then you can't complain about the goverment."

What makes mad about Bush is that he is anti gay marriage and abortion.
I believe that deneying anyone the right to get married is wrong. Unless you are brother and sister, or 1st cousins.
I also believe, even though I probably could never go through with it, that abortion is a woman's choice, and right. If you can't give us the right to decide to keep it, then how can you trust us to raise a child?

This is an interesting post. Your against denying anyone the right to get married, unless your related? What? If being love in the only requirement for marriage, why are you denying incestuous marriage? Is that love between a brother and sister any less real than yours?

Do you see the absurdity of it? Marriage has the standards it does because it is in society's interest to promote families with children. That's exclusionary, but understandable. If love is the only qualification for the insitution of marriage, then there is no valid argument against restricting marriage to any arrangement!

And the issue with abortion is not that we want to deny a woman's right to choose what she does with her body - she's welcome to do whatever she wants with her body. It's the baby inside it that concerns us! I'm a prochoice conservative because the cats already out of the bag, in those situations where I've had influence I've argued for the child living. So far I'm one for two - some 6 year old is running around today because of me!

So make sure you frame that debate correctly - most pro - lifers find the issue of the life of the baby more important than the convenience of the mother (almost all abortions are elective ), pro - abortion folks hold personal liberty more important. There's the debate...for the most part...

[Vincentii]

Originally Posted by BookWhale***

As my social studies teacher said, "if you don't vote, then you can't complain about the goverment."

I disagree with that. I'm not going into the details of Belgian politics, but the problem here in Belgium is that the political parties have ceased to represent the people. In other countries I hear of members of parliament and local senators and such you can write to with your complaints and they have to reply. Such an idea is unheard of in Belgium, you could try to write to the guy you voted into office, but the chances of him or her replying (much less doing anything) is absurd.
The sad thing is that the only party that still tries to hold on to the image of being "close to the people" and that offers some initiatives I agree with (more funding for theatres and operas, renovation of museums, bringing back the famous Belgian paintings from abroad, more funding and government support for high tech companies) is the extreme right winged party 'Vlaams Belang'.
And thus most people find themselves between a rock and a hard place: either vote for a party that doesn't even give the appearance of caring for its citizens, or vote for the fascists. The word fascist is quite appropriate here, as they are now truly a reactionary party against the existing parties' complacency.
Most people that don't want to vote blank (in Belgium you have to vote, but you can vote blank, which counts as a vote for the winner) vote for Vlaams Belang, not because they necessarily agree with the party (but they probably agree with some points) but mostly because it is a vote against the current government.
Belgium has two "Black Sundays" on which the elections turned out the Vlaams Belang as the clear winner. However, due to a government decree, the Vlaams Belang cannot become the leading party even with a majority of the votes (that's Belgian democracy for you), obviously this "Cordon sanitaire" only encourages even more people to vote for the Vlaams Belang.